I noticed Akril was pretty cool with some of the fans on TLKFAA. I just had to check this out. So Akril has this picture of Ahadi and Uru[link] and According to my deviation,[link] it differs from most of our opinions on what Ahadi and Uru looked like. This stemmed into a heated debate about if her/his version was right or not. I must say, Akril is a very perceptive user, as she/he points out things i would've never noticed
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Destroy it? How do you plan to do this?

Ahadi and Uru don't have official designs. Or parent for that matter. Besides. Female lionesses are never shown to be that light. Nor in the movies or books. Maybe those useless games that have nothing to do with anything anyway. Kiara isn't even that light. So how could Uru be that light? Ahadi does have light fur since Uru doesn't. And if your version is ,indeed, "right", where does Mufasa's red mane come from?Hmmm? Where did Scar's extended claws come from? Mufasa's brown nose? Scar's nose bridge?

Face it. Your version couldn't be right.~Werebereus

Destroy it? How do you plan to do this? In case the presence that winking smiley in that sentence didn't make the meaning clear enough, the tone of that sentence wasn't serious. I've just seen some people saying that Ahadi is described as having golden fur in TLK:6NA (which he isn't), so I decided to retaliate by drawing a few pictures of him with an entirely different fur color. That's all.
Ahadi and Uru don't have official designs. I never claimed that they did.
Female lionesses are never shown to be that light. Nor in the movies or books. Really? What about Malka's mother, Boga, or the yellow lioness and cub in Tojo's comic? Even with the colors of those pictures adjusted to be more like the movies' colors, most of those characters are much yellower than this design.
where does Mufasa's red mane come from? How about his grandfather, Mohatu? (And before you bring up your "mane genes only come from the father" theory, consider that there are only two lions whose fathers' mane colors are known and undisputed (Simba and Kopa) while there are more than fifteen adult male canon and semi-canon lions whose fathers' mane colors aren't known. Just a thought.)
Where did Scar's extended claws come from? What proof do you have that Scar's perpetually extended claws are an inherited trait and not a design element that his animator added to make him look more evil?
Scar's nose bridge? Again, possibly from a grandparent. This seems likely in this scenario since Kiara has a few traits that neither of her parents have, and seems likely that she inherited them from a grandparent or even a great-grandparent.
Face it. Your version couldn't be right. I never claimed that my version was right. This site isn't about coming up with the most "right" theories and disproving "wrong" ones. It's about drawing characters and scenes from the movies, occasionally coming up with theories about the characters, and overall just having fun with the TLK universe.~Akril

Edit: Maybe in the books but the movies, no. Lions only inherit their mane from their fathers. Simba and Kopa's manes are the same color. The fans just THINK he has a brown tuft. And what of the other males? Their fathers aren't know but we know their father's either had a Bi-colored mane or 1 mane color they inherited.
Kovu wasn't evil. Neither was Vitani, and i'm pretty sure there were some outlanders who's claws were extended. Not to mention as cubs neither Vitani's OR Kovu's claws extend until they become adolescents. You either have the trait or you don't end of story.
Nose brideges are definatly not from a grandparent, not to mention none of the shown grandparents have that sharp nose bride anyway. You can't inherit nose bridges. Never proven. Kiara wasn't finished growing, and what traits does she have that neither Simba or Nala have?? Hmmm?
i nevr said it was right either. I said it Couldn't be. Another thing. What you basically did in this picture(which is also never shown in the movie) is give the cubs the EXACT SAME COLOR as their parents. And what of Scar's elbow hair? Where did that come from?~Werebereus

EDIT 3: "Maybe in the books but the movies, no. Lions only inherit their mane from their fathers. Simba and Kopa's manes are the same color. The fans just THINK he has a brown tuft. And what of the other males? Their fathers aren't know but we know their father's either had a Bi-colored mane or 1 mane color they inherited." You seem to have missed my point. You're basing all of your evidence off of only two lions whose fathers' mane colors are known (only one if you're not counting the books now) plus one semi-canon character (Malka) whose adult mane color is never seen. You then assume that every other adult male lion in the TLK universe conforms to that theory. I'd personally gather a bit more evidence than that if I were formulating such a theory.
"Kovu wasn't evil. Neither was Vitani, and i'm pretty sure there were some outlanders who's claws were extended. Not to mention as cubs neither Vitani's OR Kovu's claws extend until they become adolescents. You either have the trait or you don't end of story." I didn't say Scar's claws made him evil, I said that they made him look more evil. Kovu and Vitani were fairly innocent as cubs, but became tougher under Zira's training, and it seems obvious that the animators wanted their adult designs to reflect that. As an adult, Kovu's claws were extended until he turned good and Vitani's claws were sometimes sheathed, whereas the two truly evil characters in SP, Zira and Nuka, always had their claws out.
"Nose brideges are definatly not from a grandparent, not to mention none of the shown grandparents have that sharp nose bride anyway. You can't inherit nose bridges. Never proven." I'm not sure what you mean by "shown grandparents", but merely saying "it's never been proven" isn't proof that your assertion is true. It's interesting, though -- While Zira's nose bridge is long, narrow and very angular, Kovu's is shorter and almost straight with a slight angle to it, Nuka's is wide and bulbous, while Vitani's is short, wide and straight.
"Kiara wasn't finished growing, and what traits does she have that neither Simba or Nala have?? Hmmm?" The fur over Kiara's eyes doesn't match the fur in her ears or the fur on her muzzle and belly (unlike Simba or Nala). The fur under her eyes is darker than the fur on her muzzle and belly instead of lighter. She also has no coloring on the bridge of her nose as a young adult (Simba gained the coloring on the bridge of his nose when he was just a "teen", according to TLK1.5), and her eyelids are dark (though this is debatable, since Nala's eyelids were light in TLK but dark in SP).
"i nevr said it was right either. I said it Couldn't be." You said "And if your version is ,indeed, 'right'[...]". That seemed to imply that I claimed that my version was the right version, which I never did.
"Another thing. What you basically did in this picture(which is also never shown in the movie) is give the cubs the EXACT SAME COLOR as their parents." If Nala is the same color as her mother and Simba is the same color as his father, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch to have two cubs with the colors of their parents. I was thinking of giving Uru a cream color, but I thought a golden lioness would be more unique.
"And what of Scar's elbow hair? Where did that come from?" Most likely Mohatu. This seems possible since Kovu has elbow hair even as a cub, yet Chumvi, one of the most popular candidates for his father, doesn't. [EDIT: added breaks.]~Akril

Edit 3:Shown grandparents would be lions such as Ahadi, Mohatu, and Uru(who wasn't seen anyway.) And maybe it doesn't confirm the truth but their's nothing giong against it. It was nevr proven NOT to be true. Zira's nose bridge may be long but that's because she's an adult. Besides it still has that Scar-like dip. Kovu's nose does the same as does Vitani's and Nuka's. IF you speculation are true that gives me more proof Nuka and Vitani are full siblings, but im not going to argue over it.
Nala's fur does this as well,all 3 movies and in the art(I'd find some art but im lazy) movies.[link]
But notice the upper and lower eyeshades aren't the EXACT same color. the top shade is a darker color than lower shade. Kiara's eyes seem do this as well except instead of cream they take Simba's dark upper eye shades. But in these pics her lower shades DO matche her muzzle(and maybe her ears)
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We know Simba gained this dark nose fur as a teen but what of Nala? We never saw HER as a teen. Did she have this fur? When she met Simba she wasn't a young adult(Nala and Simba were about the same age. Maybe Simba was a few weeks old...) as Simba's mane had filled in(unlike Kovu's)

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Nala is not the same color as Sarafina. She is darker.
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Simba is not the same color as Mufasa. Mufasa is a much darker, richer color of gold than Simba is.
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Elbow hair isn't inherited either. Once again, never proven and although I believe Kovu's father was Chumvi this is easily overruled.
You say Simba gains this nose dirt(I call it dirt sometimes) as a teen. Truth is, he gains it much sooner.
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Kovu is still considered a cub yet he has all of teen Simba's aspects. A tuft forming from his head, nose dirt, dwindling earstipes.(These also dissappear when he's a young adult. It also suggest he had full earstrpies like Simba.) Simba was younger Kovu as a cub and Kovu was more mature. As for Chumvi, we don't know who his parents where and since he was born when Simba was(Nala is his age or younger/older) he wouldn't have had these traits either. When Chumvi grew older he would've grown some elbow hair if he was Kovu's father but this brings up Malka. He has a tuft on his head but not on his elbows(I don't think so...). MY guess is he is older than Simba as his earstrpies seem to be fading.
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"The other lions who's parents aren't know have the same color mane as their fathers(Unless their father had i Bi-colored mane.)" Again, you've missed my point. Boldly stating that all the lions in the TLK universe have to follow a theory based on fewer lions than can be counted on the fingers of one hand makes about as much sense as saying that lionesses with bright green eyes can't exist in the TLK universe since only lions have bright green eyes (meaning Scar). "Kovu and Vitani were not innocent as cubs. When Kovu saw Kiara, who was a pridelander, his immediate response was agression. When Vitani and Nala meet up the response was the same." ...Which was when Vitani was a young adult, not a cub. And I said fairly innocent, since they obviously show some effects of a hard life in the Outlands. "As for the animators wanting Vitani/Kovu's design to reflect their training, that really tells us nothing. Scar's claws were extended yet he had no major goals to accomplish. Mufasa was going to be the king so he would undego the training, not Scar. [...]" If what you say is true, wouldn't Mufasa's claws be extended as well? But their not. So it's not true." As I said before and you seem to keep disregarding, the extended claws were most likely drawn on Scar, Zira and Nuka to make them look more evil. As for your "traning" argument, Vitani and Kovu were being trained to be killers, not good rulers. Mufasa wasn't an evil character, therefore his claws are seldom extended. "And since when were Vitani's claws sheathed? Or Kovu's for that matter? Send me a screen." Certainly.
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"Nala's fur does this as well,all 3 movies and in the art(I'd find some art but im lazy) [...] But notice the upper and lower eyeshades aren't the EXACT same color. the top shade is a darker color than lower shade. Kiara's eyes seem do this as well except instead of cream they take Simba's dark upper eye shades. But in these pics her lower shades DO matche her muzzle(and maybe her ears) [...]"A fair argument, but with the exception of the SP scene with Nala, none of those scenes take place in full daylight, where the characters' colors are the most accurate.

"Nala is not the same color as Sarafina. She is darker."Again, the screenshot of Sarafina you posted shows the two of them in full daylight (with Nala as a cub and lighter than Sarafina, not darker), while all the other screenshots show Nala in less than optimal lighting. Nala's fur is darker as an adult, and almost the same color as Sarafina's.[link]
"Simba is not the same color as Mufasa. Mufasa is a much darker, richer color of gold than Simba is." Since the best picture of adult Simba in full daylight seems to take place closer to noon (judging by the shadows), I compared that scene to a picture of Mufasa from a scene with similar lighting. Their colors may be different, but it's a very slight difference. [link] [link]
"Elbow hair isn't inherited either."What is it, then? A random mutation? "Once again, never proven and although I believe Kovu's father was Chumvi this is easily overruled. You say Simba gains this nose dirt(I call it dirt sometimes) as a teen. Truth is, he gains it much sooner." This and everything that follows is speculation. I have no objection to that, though; it's what makes this site interesting.~Akril

Edit 4: but lionesses can have green eyes no matter what shade. I'm sure Nala and Vitani don't have the same shade of blue eys or Zira and Simba. Scar and Kovu don't have the same shade of green either.
Vitani WAS a young adult. A mistake on my part. There you go again saying "because they were in the outlands, so and so happened". I'm sure Kovu and Vitani were the only cubs in the outlands. Zira didn't want any competition plus Kovu and Vitani were born during Scar's reign and exiled by simba. Kovu was being affectionate with Kiara. He was taught to HATE pridelanders not like and complement them.
Key word"Most likely" and what do you think Kovu was going to be after he killed Simba? He was going to be the king. Vitani would be the only one trained to be a killer and a killer ONLY. Mufasa wasn't evil but you said "Kovu and Vitani were fairly innocent as cubs, but became tougher under Zira's training, and it seems obvious that the animators wanted their adult designs to reflect that." Mufasa would have to undergo the same training if he was to fight off or kill an opposing male. The animators DIDN'T reflect that in his design. He was your standard pridelands. He didn't have to be evil for his claws to be out.
Screen1: Her claws are there. Their just turned at a certain angle where they are unseeable.
Screen2: That was a mistake. You say when they turn good their claws retract. Vitani is still evil and Zira's claws are extended.
Screen3: This is also an error. Their are 3 actually. Kovu's claws are retracted(he's still evil),Kiara's paws aren't colored(Or not the same color as her chest) and Kovu's belly fur is no where to be seen.
Screen4: This is, again, a mistake. A few scenes back his claws are out(When he trains Kiara.)
The one where Kiara looks in the sky after the we are one song IS in broad daylight.
Nala's fur is a shade or two lighter than Sarafina's fur, if not darker. Compare the scenes where Sarafina and the other lionesses greive over mufasa's death with when Nala returns with Simba. It's quite obvious.[link] and [link] Sarafina's colors are duller than Nala's(and this is in the morning as Simba woke mufasa so he could show him the kingdom. Mufasa remarks "Before sunrise he's your son.")
The scene at the end where Rafiki presents Kopa is in the morning.[link]
his fur still isn't the same color. It's not a slight difference. Simba is not as orange as Mufasa. He's more of a yellow color. Not only is his fur not as rich as Mufasa's, but his mane and underbelly/muzzle isn't either.
It's not a mutation. Since Scar has elbow hair, Ahadi had to have it. so why doesn't mufasa have? Because he didn;t get the gene for it. Kopa has a mane tuft and since he still has full ear rims and no nose dirt he is Simba's age(or maybe a bit older since he had no nose dirt.) yet Simba had no head tuft.[link]

"but lionesses can have green eyes no matter what shade. I'm sure Nala and Vitani don't have the same shade of blue eys or Zira and Simba. Scar and Kovu don't have the same shade of green either." No, they can't. We've never seen lionesses with green eyes in the movies, only lions, so it's never been proven that lionesses can have green eyes. (This isn't what I really believe; I'm just arguing using your logic here.) Kovu was being affectionate with Kiara. He was taught to HATE pridelanders not like and complement them. So what are you saying here? That Kovu was innocent, or that he somehow managed to like a Pridelander despite his training not to? "Key word"Most likely" and what do you think Kovu was going to be after he killed Simba? He was going to be the king." As Zira stated, Kovu is being trained to follow in Scar's pawprints. It seems unlikely that Zira knew much (if anything) about teaching a cub to be a just and proper king. Her primary goal was revenge and to have one of her sons "replace" Scar, who was a tyrannical despot. Had Kovu succeeded, it's very unlikely that he would have been a king anything like Mufasa.
"Screen2: That was a mistake. You say when they turn good their claws retract." No, I said when Kovu turned good, his claws were sheathed. After the rhino chase with Kiara, his claws are sheathed almost continuously.
"This is also an error. Their are 3 actually. Kovu's claws are retracted(he's still evil),Kiara's paws aren't colored(Or not the same color as her chest) and Kovu's belly fur is no where to be seen." Kiara's claws look lighter than her main fur color to me, but Kovu's belly fur is missing. If that screenshot wasn't to your liking, there are many that follow it showing Kovu with sheathed claws. In fact, he doesn't have them out again until he tries to attack Simba. It's almost as if he had them retracted in an attempt to appear less threatening.
"Screen4: This is, again, a mistake. A few scenes back his claws are out(When he trains Kiara.)"Yes, but that was before the rhino chase. Except for the Outsider ambush, Kovu's claws are always sheathed after he chases the rhinos with Kiara. "The one where Kiara looks in the sky after the we are one song IS in broad daylight." Er, no, it's sunset. Hence the reddish look of Kiara and the background. Nala's fur is a shade or two lighter than Sarafina's fur, if not darker. Yes, Nala's fur is much lighter than her mother's as a cub (as the screenshots you posted show), but it darkens when she grows up. "The scene at the end where Rafiki presents Kopa is in the morning." Yes, but it's later in the morning than the presentation at the beginning of TLK. In the beginning of TLK, sunlight strikes Pride Rock from beneath, indicating that it's still low in the sky [link] At the end of TLK, there is much less contrast between light and dark and the sunlight is striking the top of Pride Rock much more.
[link] The characters' colors in the two scenes differ significantly (compare Rafiki's coloring in the two scenes.)~Akril

Edit 5: So what about Sarafina? Her eyes are green. Their not blue like Nala's.
That's exactly what i'm saying.
Tyrannical or not Kovu was still going to be the king of pride rock. Their are no more hyenas so i doubt his reign would magically be like scar's. She said he "would follow in his pawprints and become KING."

So then why is it a screen of Vitani? She turned good in the end yet her claws never retracted.[link] AS for Kovu his father had to be Chumvi or an pridelander of some sort. I've come to the conclusion Kovu's only kept his claws out to look like Scar. He does not have the gene for continuosly extended claws. Vitani does and therefore has no choice again proving extended claws is an inherited gene. The screen proves it.
It's not sunset doubt listening to your parents chatter about "do's" and "don'ts", evading your baby sitters, meeting a cub, dodging crocodiles, try playing with that cub and have two angry parents show up then singing a 3 minute song with take up 24 hours of the day.
Not as a cub. As an adult! Sarafina has a pale cream pelt. Nala's is just cream.
How do you know it's later in the morning? According to TLK2 it was not long after sunrise, early in the morning and the cub at the end of TLK was Kiara.(I don't think so but you can argue with official)
You still didn't answer my statement about elbow tufts.~Werebereus

EDIT 6: "So what about Sarafina? Her eyes are green. Yes, but they're a pale sage green, not a brilliant emerald green." I initially said that lionesses with bright green eyes like Scar's don't exist in the TLK universe, so she doesn't count. "So then why is it a screen of Vitani? She turned good in the end yet her claws never retracted." You asked for a screen of Vitani with her claws sheathed, and I gave you one. Also, as I keep saying, the "claws stay sheathed when character turns 'good'" phenomenon happened only with Kovu, and if you can dismiss that screenshot of Vitani with her claws sheathed as a mistake, then I can say that Vitani's claws not retracting after she turns "good" is a mistake as well (though I still haven't reached any definite conclusions about that scene). "It's not sunset .I doubt listening to your parents chatter about "do's" and "don'ts", evading your baby sitters, meeting a cub, dodging crocodiles, try playing with that cub and have two angry parents show up then singing a 3 minute song with take up 24 hours of the day." I'll keep the nitpicking about there being only 12 hours of daylight in a 24-hour period and Kiara's adventure appearing to start in the late morning to a bare minimum. Here's a screenshot a few seconds after the one you showed me takes place. If that isn't sunset (or very close to it), then what time of the day is it supposed to be?
[link] "How do you know it's later in the morning?" The screenshots and descriptions I posted should have answered this question. Look how dark Rafiki is in the ceremony at the beginning of TLK compared to the one at the end:
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According to TLK2 it was not long after sunrise, early in the morning and the cub at the end of TLK was "Kiara.(I don't think so but you can argue with official)"Yes, but the ceremony at the beginning of SP differs greatly from the one at the end of TLK and the colors of all the characters are considerably different, so dragging SP into this argument is a bit pointless.
"You still didn't answer my statement about elbow tufts." I didn't answer it because it was an assertion based on speculation, and there didn't seem to be any point in arguing about it. Regardless what you may think about Nuka and Chumvi, there is no indisputable case where a lion with elbow tufts has a father who also has them. ~Werebereus


Edit 6: Not you said lionesses don't have green eyes period. And if they Don't have striking green eyes then your version of Ahadi's mother is wrong.
But we were trying to prove if claws were an inherited. This isn't a mistake because Kovu's claws aren't extended right next to her. These outlanders [link] no longer on Zira's side after considering what Kiara says, yet their claws are not extended.
I'm pretty sure that scene(before the outlands is shown) was only 3 or 4 hours as when Zira gets done singing "my lullaby" the sun goes down quickly. The screen yuo gave me the sun is STILL up. It sets after Zira's song. So this is broad daylight.
So what if it differs? Legally the cub at the end of TLK1 was Kiara from TLK2. And you right. The colors do change and its not just in the morning at the presentation. It's all through the movie.
So where do you think Scar's elbow tufts come from?~Werebereus

EDIT 7: "Not you said lionesses don't have green eyes period." My initial statement from Edit 4 was: "Boldly stating that all the lions in the TLK universe have to follow a theory based on fewer lions than can be counted on the fingers of one hand makes about as much sense as saying that lionesses with bright green eyes can't exist in the TLK universe since only lions have bright green eyes (meaning Scar)", and it should follow that I was referring to that statement in Edit 5. "And if they Don't have striking green eyes then your version of Ahadi's mother is wrong." Again, that's not what I actually think. I was just forming a hypothetical argument based on your logic. But we were trying to prove if claws were an inherited. "This isn't a mistake because Kovu's claws aren't extended right next to her. These outlanders sp_screengrab_887.jpg are no longer on Zira's side after considering what Kiara says, yet their claws are not extended." Actually, they are extended. I don't think they become retracted until after Zira's death (though their designs also become more Pridelanderish). By the way, I take back what I said about Zira's claws always being extended. When she and the other Outsiders are mourning Nuka's death, none of their claws (including hers) are out. In the shot when she notices Kovu and starts coming towards him, you can see her claws come out as she sees him and becomes visibly angry. "I'm pretty sure that scene(before the outlands is shown) was only 3 or 4 hours as when Zira gets done singing "my lullaby" the sun goes down quickly. The screen yuo gave me the sun is STILL up. It sets after Zira's song. So this is broad daylight." It looks like your definition of broad daylight is different than mine. If the sun is relatively high in the sky and there's nothing obscuring the sunlight (like dust, heavy clouds, a leafy canopy, etc.), I consider that broad daylight. If the sun is that low enough in the sky, I don't. "So where do you think Scar's elbow tufts come from?" I gave you my theory on their origin in my very first reply to you.~Akril

Edit7:Are extended. That's what i meant. Sorry. but they turn good BEFORE Zira's death.[link] None of their claws are out. Zira is tunred around. We cannot see her claws. They don't come out before she jumps from the log their already out.[link] They are out.
you did. But it's wrong. I'm not going to argue it though.~Werebereus

EDIT 8:"Are extended. That's what i meant. Sorry. but they turn good BEFORE Zira's death."As I keep saying, the "claws become retracted upon turning good" thing seems to occur only with Kovu. There's not much rhyme or reason to when and why the other lionesses' claws retract. "They don't come out before she jumps from the log their already out. sp_screengrab_679.jpg They are out."Nothing personal, but did you even watch that scene instead of looking at a couple of screenshots from it? If you did, you would have seen that Zira's claws are retracted just a few frames before that second screenshot. I even made a brief recording of Zira from that scene to show you that I'm not making anything up: [link]

Edit 8: So if it only happens with Kovu the why did you say Vitnai's extended claws were a mistake when she was beside Kovu?Hmmmm?
Her claws do come out. Okay...this really says nothing.~Werebereus

"So if it only happens with Kovu the why did you say Vitnai's extended claws were a mistake when she was beside Kovu?Hmmmm?" You initially said that Vitani wasn't evil in your first reply to me, then said that her claws being sheathed during the mourning scene was a mistake because Zira's claws are extended (though they weren't a few seconds earlier) and Vitani "is still evil". I gave you a "counter-argument" which was just as baseless and contradictory. However, if Kovu wasn't meant to be the only Outsider with the "claws retract upon turning good" phenomenon (theoretically), since the rest of the Outlanders don't have retracted claws and gentle, smiling faces* until after Zira dies and Simba accepts them, it looks as if this was the point when they truly became "good", not the moment when they decide that maybe fighting for a lioness willing to kill her own daughter isn't such a great idea. If this is the case, then that would be the time Vitani would appear with unsheathed claws, not the point when she turns against Zira. However, since she never appears after Zira's death, we can only speculate about this possibility. * [link] Alternately, if Vitani did become good at that point, she probably knew that turning against her mother would be very dangerous, and so was still on her guard when she did. However, I'm only spinning theories here. It's hard to make too much sense out of a movie with as many continuity errors as SP. "Her claws do come out. Okay...this really says nothing." Really? It doesn't say that she lacks the gene for permanently extended claws?

Edit9: They betrayed Zira and went to Simba's side and Simba didn't object( Like when Kovu tried to enter the den. Simba was being a doucheXD) But it's not. Vitani is the first to see the fighting is pointless and betrays Zira. The other lionesses follow in suit after Zira threatens to kill Vitani.
To your screen...Notice most of those lionesses have pridelander noises. [link] <---That had to be them as they were the only lionesses shown with pridelander noses during this scene.This means since those are the only outlander lionesses with pridelander noses they were like Kovu while the others with outlander noses were more like Vitani. Their claws stayed extended. They could've been former pridelanders who were loyal to Scar's reign. They all look like they had pridelander anatomy but the lack of food in the outlands makes it hard to notice. [link] (Kiara's Anatomy is is similar to an outlander in this scene.) [link] These lionesses assume a more pridelander design-Red eyes,circular pointed teeth(save for dotty),Pridelander noses, rising nosebridge.
[link] simba has all these traits. He is 100% pridelander in physical appearence.
When the outlanders are about to attack Simba his claws remained sheathed,[link] and if what i said before is correct, Kovu's claws never extend permanently. Your theory of Vitani's claws being Extendedd because she was "On Gaurd" is disproven.
"Really?It doesn't say she lacks the gene from permanently extended claws?" No it doesn't. No it doesn't. I disproved you theory of Simba being on Gaurd as the outlanders ambushed him. In this Screen [link] Scar is thinking remorseful thoughts of never being strong enough to challenge Mufasa for the throne and in turn losing hope of ever becomeing king similar to the way Zira lost Nuka to Simba. Her claws and everyone esles claws retract because they lost something dear. And if Zira's claws don't extend genetically it's just more proof that Nuka and Vitani are, Indeed, Scar's offspring.~Werebereus
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It's a bit hard to follow but after Edit 9 she/he never responded.
Maybe cause shehe was tired of argueing or had nothing else to argue with but of this i am still unsure.

Oh and IchigoSuppen. You've been blocked. Since your a lying idiot who can't let go of the past i had to point that out for you.